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EXCLUSIVE – THIN LIZZY INTERVIEW

Posted by simon On January - 4 - 2011

To many disillusioned die-hards the latest incarnation of Thin Lizzy are nothing more than a tribute band.

But to the more discerning rock fan the reality is that this could be the best line-up since the band’s Phil Lynott-inspired heyday.

Hired hand and Def Leppard guitar hero Vivian Campbell is in no mood to disagree as he prepares to head out on Lizzy’s latest UK headline tour.

rushonrock: What are your first memories of Thin Lizzy?

Vivian Campbell: I can vividly remember watching the band play Whisky In The Jar on Top Of The Pops and after that I saw Lizzy a bunch of times. My first band, Sweet Savage, ended up opening up for them a load of times and we did the whole Renegade tour of the UK which, at the time, was a huge opportunity for us. We opened up at the King’s Hall in Belfast and again at Slane Castle 30 years ago. And we always played this club in Dublin which was right next door to a pub called The Bailey where Phil Lynott would drink on a Saturday afternoon. We’d go in there and see him and he’d get up and play Are You Ready. Lizzy were a hug influence on me as a kid and as I was growing up. Phil was an iconic rock star and, as a guitarist, I was influenced by all of the band’s guitar players apart from, perhaps, Eric Bell. Scott Gorham, Brian Robertson and Gary Moore were very, very influential and had a great bearing on my playing.

rushonrock: What was the first Lizzy song you learned to play?

VC: Well the Johnny The Fox album was very much on my radar and when I was 17 or 18 I could play all of those songs. I remember playing Don’t Believe A Word as a young kid and Lizzy were so much a part of me growing up in Belfast. It was through Lizzy that I first heard of Gary Moore and he’s always been a huge influence on my career and style. You could say I’m very, very familiar with Lizzy’s back catalogue and we just did a couple of weeks in rehearsal before Christmas – it was a blast! I’m a bit of an anorak when it comes to the band’s music – so much so that some of the parts Scott was playing were, in my view, wrong. And I told him so! Over the years Scott’s combined some of his guitar parts and some of Brian’s parts but I know them all so well I can tell where he’s changed things. I was very, very well rehearsed even before I joined the band and I don’t know whether Scott knew what he was letting himself in for. He’s changed a lot of the original parts – he’s morphed some parts into others and co-opted some of Brian’s parts and let’s just say there were a few incidents during rehearsals where I pointed this out. Scott refused to believe it at first but I’m such an anorak I watched the YouTube videos again just to prove my point!

rushonrock: What was the first thought that went through your head when you were approached to join Lizzy?

VC: I remember thinking what an exciting opportunity this was for me. As a guitarist their music has always been such a huge part of my life. I’m entirely self-taught and taught myself a lot of Lizzy songs. Marc Bolan was my first point of reference as a rock guitarist and then I discovered Rory Gallacher. From there I found Lizzy. It’s very exciting to be in this position. It’s reconnected me to the electric guitar. I’ve been in Def Leppard for 20 years and if I’m honest it’s not a terribly challenging job for me as a guitar player. Phil Collen plays most of the widdly guitar parts and I do what I do. But this job has reignited my love for guitar playing.

rushonrock: So how did the opportunity come about?

VC: It was Joe [Elliott, Def Leppard singer] who came up with the idea. He’s been helping Scott with some of the Lizzy remixes for the reissues and he came up with the idea about a year ago now. Leppard were going to be inactive for a while and I would have been sitting around getting fat. Joe suggested it to Scott and he called me. I know they were trying to get Brian Robertson to come back and, as a fan, I have to admit that would have been very exciting. But for whatever reason Robbo couldn’t or wouldn’t do it and by all accounts I’m the next best thing!

rushonrock: Were you actively looking for a new project or were you enjoying your time off from Leppard?

VC: I don’t enjoy taking time off full stop. I don’t really agree with the concept of taking a whole year off and so even before the Lizzy thing came along I’d planned to do a lot of work during the last 12 months. I’ve been writing with people in LA and I’ve formed a bar band which has been playing around the LA area. We’ve been avoiding the Hollywood bars and playing the San Fernando Valley area. It’s all covers stuff and we do it for $100 a free beer! And the funny thing is that the bulk of the set is made up of Lizzy covers – we do seven, eight or nine Lizzy songs a night!

rushonrock: Do you think the time was right for a Leppard hiatus regardless of your own misgivings?

VC: I do think it was the right time to have a break. For Joe in particular it was important. He was burnt out. We’d been touring for five years without a break and it was starting to take its toll. As for the rest of the guys I’m not sure. I don’t honestly know what Sav’s been doing. Rick Allen’s been pretty busy and Phil’s been busy with his own band. I just think Joe wanted a complete break from Def Leppard rather than a break from everything. As it turns out he’s been working harder than ever with the Lizzy stuff and the Down N Outz.

rushonrock: So what does the immediate future hold for Leppard?

VC: We’ve got a couple of new songs on the go. We have a live record coming out in 2011 and we’re looking at attaching two, three or four new songs to that album when it comes out. There are also plans for a career-encompassing box set. It will happen but we need to sort a few things out contractually. As it happens we’re talking to our old label Universal about re-signing with them. That would make things a lot easier. Leppard will be back this summer and we’ll be touring North America and Canada.

rushonrock: If the chance to join Lizzy was a highlight of 2010 then was the passing of your former band mate Ronnie James Dio a low point?

VC: You know, I was numb to the whole thing. I hadn’t talked to Ronnie in 25 years so it wasn’t as if we were close. My mother died nine or 10 days before him so I was preoccupied with that. And my father died nine months before that. It was a really tough year on a personal level and I had enough to think about. The news about Ronnie James Dio just bounced off me. It was a difficult relationship on a personal level anyway. I was really proud of the music we made together but it was tough being in a band together. But he died way too young.

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23 Responses

  1. ed sheahan Says:

    what an Ass this guy is. he has his entire career thanks to RJD. who would have ever known about vivian cambell if not for his opportunity in Dio and he has to make comments like it just bounced off him. get over yourself vivian, you have not done anything worth a damm since sacred heart. RIP Ronnie Dio

    Posted on January 7th, 2011 at 1:53 pm

  2. MisterSinister Says:

    what a dick. he admits himself in the interview that his musical contribution to Def Leppard is negligible, therefore his claim to fame is the music he made with RJD. He should have had more respect for Ronnie. Perhaps if he had, he’d have done more than occupy stage space for Leppard for the last 2 decades. A footnote in Rock and Roll history. And that is only due to his work with Dio.

    Posted on January 12th, 2011 at 12:29 am

  3. LAV Says:

    Exactly 25 years ago I quit my first job and haven’t contacted my first employer ever since. I’m not really sure if he is still alive alive or dead. And frankly I really don’t care …
    However, I still keep Holy Diver, Last in Line and Sacred Heart in my collection, and not a single record of Def … fucking .. Leppard.
    Cheers to all Dio fans from Russia

    Posted on January 12th, 2011 at 8:55 am

  4. Holymagica Says:

    Losing both parents myself, yeah I can understand Vivian Campbell being very preoccupied with his bereavements.
    I really hope sometime in the future he can talk about the good times with Ronnie James Dio and forget about the about the business side of things.
    Becoz the fans are ONLY interested in the music.

    Posted on January 12th, 2011 at 10:53 am

  5. simon Says:

    I’ve got to say MisterSinister that I’d rather conduct an interview with someone who’s honest and heartfelt rather than someone who indulges in false platitudes for the sake of it. Viv had the opportunity to say something ‘nice’ about RJD and that would, of course, have been the easy option. But to everyone who knows the history between the two men that would have been grossly hypocritical. I admire Viv for the way he responded to a difficult question – just because the great RJD (I’m a HUGE fan btw) has passed away it’s impossible to rewrite history.

    Posted on January 12th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

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  7. Scott Says:

    Guys..some of you need to get a life and stop this nonsense re Vivs comments about his time with DIO etc. READ HIS WORDS, think about it and compute. Viv was saying, with the loss of both his parents, he was already numb and dealing with terrible personal loss in his life. When he says the news of RJD death bounced off of him, he’s not saying he didn’t care..he’s saying he didn’t feel anything as he was already numb with grief! It was a euphanism!!!
    Viv does owe a lot to RJD, but he did go on to forge a career after. Just because you guys don’t like RIVERDOGS, SHADOW KING, WHITESNAKE and DEF LEP…doesn’t mean its crap.
    Time to grow up.

    Posted on January 13th, 2011 at 8:02 am

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  12. stu Says:

    Ronnie James Dio WAS A PRICK he was way too bitter…..He never forgave Campbell for leaving for the legendary David Coverdale’s Whitesnake…And if Dio had said the things he said about me, I would not have spoken to him for twenty years either .DIO WISHED CAMPELL DEAD ……CHECK OUT THE LINK.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOwZBo8FQvo

    Posted on January 16th, 2011 at 5:45 pm

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  17. lena Says:

    Its true, since joining Leppard, Viv has been resting on his laurels so to speak,
    He has recorded four studio albums with Leppard since ’93 and should have staked his claim and stamped his signature on their sound and style at this stage……It is insulting to band members past and present, and to the fine music they have made, to label it “unchallenging to play”.
    Maybe Coverdale was right when he said Campbell didnt have anything to bring to the table, (regarding his contributions to the slip of the tongue album).
    Phil Collen is a cool guy and would gladly hand over any guitar part he wanted to play, the fact is he stepped in to the shoes of another gutarist and took over his parts and solos, if its not eough , then ask for more, and if its not challenging then step up and write or play something THAT IS “challenging”.
    Truth is, I’m a Leppard fan, and I have the albums he played on with Dio, Riverdogs and lou Gramm, and the boy sure can play.
    Dissapointed Leppard Fan……..

    Posted on January 19th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

  18. simon Says:

    I don’t think you should be disappointed Lena. Viv has been playing a lot of the same stuff for so many years now that a guitarist of his calibre is unlikely to feel challenged. Joining Lizzy – albeit temporarily – has given him something new to get his teeth into and I think that’s all he’s saying. He loves his work with Leppard and his band mates respect him as a brilliant player. I’m sure they’d rather have someone who didn’t find their demands challenging than someone who couldn’t meet the challenge.

    Posted on January 19th, 2011 at 6:07 pm

  19. stu Says:

    Im with Lena, he has had plenty of time to make something worthwhile with Leppard, four albums and nearly 20 years with them and comes out with a comment like that. Its not challenging because he hasn’t written anything challenging, If you go by the stuff he did with Dio, he can more than meet the challenge. What he said was desrespectful to the band and the music he plays….Viv can stay with Lizzy!!! Def leppard should go and BEG Adrian Smith , Doug Aldrich or John Sykes to play instead.
    Steve Clarke is dearly missed…………

    Posted on January 21st, 2011 at 1:27 pm

  20. Laurent Says:

    Vivian Campbell has contributed nothing to the bands he played with. The only excpetion, maybe, being Dio.
    He was a tiny footnote in Whitesnake history and most people have forgotten he played with them. He did not put his stamp on DL music in 20 years! He was not a significaant writer with both Riverdogs and Shadow King…..
    Vivian Campbell is one of the greatest waste of talent in the history of rock. I have never met him, and I feel he comes across as an ass, but the guy can play. His work with Dio is brlliant. He did a few good things with Riverdogs too. But that is very, very insufficient for a guy with his talent. I have the feeling that he is a bit lazy, and do not really care to bring ideas to a band. When the last thing you did worth mentioning is 25 years old, and complain about your day job, I would suggest Viv take a deep look at his behaviour/attitude. He sounds like a civil servant more than an artist.

    Posted on January 25th, 2011 at 10:36 am

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